RWC-Other Group
Rules
Rules
Welcome to RWC-Other.
Please Note: All RWC groups are tightly moderated. The rules are enforced at all times.
Members who don't follow the rules are sent friendly little reminders. If that doesn't work,
they are set to moderated. Spam and ads are not tolerated at all. (RWC is a HUGE on
line community and the only way to keep the amount of mail in control is by making sure
posts stay on topic and that all rules are followed.)
PLEASE take a few moments to review this message BEFORE you begin posting to the
list! Once you understand the rules, feel free to post an intro to the list so we can learn
about you and your writing. (Please note an intro should NOT be a buy-my-book
message. Ads are never allowed on RWC-Other, and promo messages can only be sent
on Sundays.)
Charlotte Dillon
RWC-Other-owner@yahoogroups.com
Resources for Romance Writers
www.CharlotteDillon.com
About Us:
A branch off the RWC tree, the RWC-Other group is for those of us who do other writing
along with our romance novels, or other than romance. To find out about other RWC
groups take a look here: http://www.charlottedillon.com/RWC.html
The Rules: Short and Sweet
1) No flames! NONE! Never! In other words, play nice.
2) Trim any post you reply to on list. Leave only the from line and three or four lines of text.
3) Subject lines. No message should be sent without a topic header in the subject line.
4) Copyright Law -- Don't break it. So no copy and pasting of any article that doesn't
belong to you.
5) No Spam! No ads! Not Any! Promo only allowed on Sunday and only by active
members who follow all Promo Sunday rules. Promo that fits the main RWC can't be
posted here, and promo about other types of writing that fit here shouldn't be posted to
the main group.
6) No Chit Chat. All posts should deal with writing or research in some way. New sales
and rejection news aren't chit chat.
7) Off topic posts should only be about something major like the death of a close family
member, a flood hit your home, ect....
8) Signature (sig) lines. Each message should have a sig line with your name and e-mail
address in it. But no sig line should be MORE than FOUR lines long.
9) Members who break rules get sent reminders and if that doesn't work they are set to
moderated so messages that don't follow the rules can be blocked. Members who spam
or flame or just won't follow the rules are removed from the group.
10) You can not send in samples of your writing to the list.
To start sending messages to RWC simply send email to
RWC-Other@yahoogroups.com
If you do not wish to belong to RWC-Other you may unsubscribe at any time by sending
an email to RWC-Other-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com or by going to the group home
page and clicking on leave group.
I give the below info in case you ever need to resub...or have a friend who would like to
sub. To subscribe to this group, send an email to
RWC-Other-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
You may also visit the Yahoo! Groups website to modify your subscriptions:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RWC-Other/
Regards,
Charlotte Dillon ~*~ RWC-Other-owner@yahoogroups.com
Resources for Romance Writers
www.CharlotteDillon.com
Owner and Moderator, RWClists
Please Note: All RWC groups are tightly moderated. The rules are enforced at all times.
Members who don't follow the rules are sent friendly little reminders. If that doesn't work,
they are set to moderated. Spam and ads are not tolerated at all. (RWC is a HUGE on
line community and the only way to keep the amount of mail in control is by making sure
posts stay on topic and that all rules are followed.)
PLEASE take a few moments to review this message BEFORE you begin posting to the
list! Once you understand the rules, feel free to post an intro to the list so we can learn
about you and your writing. (Please note an intro should NOT be a buy-my-book
message. Ads are never allowed on RWC-Other, and promo messages can only be sent
on Sundays.)
Charlotte Dillon
RWC-Other-owner@yahoogroups.com
Resources for Romance Writers
www.CharlotteDillon.com
About Us:
A branch off the RWC tree, the RWC-Other group is for those of us who do other writing
along with our romance novels, or other than romance. To find out about other RWC
groups take a look here: http://www.charlottedillon.com/RWC.html
The Rules: Short and Sweet
1) No flames! NONE! Never! In other words, play nice.
2) Trim any post you reply to on list. Leave only the from line and three or four lines of text.
3) Subject lines. No message should be sent without a topic header in the subject line.
4) Copyright Law -- Don't break it. So no copy and pasting of any article that doesn't
belong to you.
5) No Spam! No ads! Not Any! Promo only allowed on Sunday and only by active
members who follow all Promo Sunday rules. Promo that fits the main RWC can't be
posted here, and promo about other types of writing that fit here shouldn't be posted to
the main group.
6) No Chit Chat. All posts should deal with writing or research in some way. New sales
and rejection news aren't chit chat.
7) Off topic posts should only be about something major like the death of a close family
member, a flood hit your home, ect....
8) Signature (sig) lines. Each message should have a sig line with your name and e-mail
address in it. But no sig line should be MORE than FOUR lines long.
9) Members who break rules get sent reminders and if that doesn't work they are set to
moderated so messages that don't follow the rules can be blocked. Members who spam
or flame or just won't follow the rules are removed from the group.
10) You can not send in samples of your writing to the list.
To start sending messages to RWC simply send email to
RWC-Other@yahoogroups.com
If you do not wish to belong to RWC-Other you may unsubscribe at any time by sending
an email to RWC-Other-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com or by going to the group home
page and clicking on leave group.
I give the below info in case you ever need to resub...or have a friend who would like to
sub. To subscribe to this group, send an email to
RWC-Other-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
You may also visit the Yahoo! Groups website to modify your subscriptions:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RWC-Other/
Regards,
Charlotte Dillon ~*~ RWC-Other-owner@yahoogroups.com
Resources for Romance Writers
www.CharlotteDillon.com
Owner and Moderator, RWClists
RWC-Other Sunday Promo
Rules
Rules
Day and Time -- These messages are ONLY allowed on Sunday. That means any time
after Midnight Saturday until Midnight Sunday. The time goes by where you live.
NOTE: (If you forget to post your promo message on Sunday, then you'll have to wait until
the next Sunday. Please don't send it in Monday because you forgot, or Saturday because
you won't be on line Sunday. If you are set to moderated and you send your message in
Sunday night after I've shut down the computer for the day, then I will still approve it and put
it through Monday morning since it was sent Sunday.)
RWC-Other Members ONLY -- You have to be a member of RWC-Other to send in a
promo message. That means you can not forward one for a friend, or anyone else, who
doesn't belong to this group. It has to be your own promo only. Sunday Promo is done as a
thank you to members for sharing their time and know-how on with others. That's why it is
only for active members.
Subject Line -- PROMO "must" be the first thing in the subject line, and then a line that let's
us know what the message is about. Some members don't want to deal with any kind of
promo at all on list, and having that little promo warning at the start of the message makes
it easy for them to know what to delete without even opening the message.
Message Form -- There's no HTML or attachments allowed on RWC, so messages will
have to be text only. They shouldn't be straight forward ads, but kind of a friendly "hello
there let me tell you about...."
Types of Promo Allowed -- It has to be about a book you wrote, something you wrote, or
writing in some way. So that means this isn't the place for promo about those lovely bird
houses you make.
It can be about some articles you have out, your site filled with info for writing markets, that
book of poems you had published, ect... It can be a non-fiction book "you" have published.
A book about writing article for magazines. Any website about "you" as an author or any
site about writing how to. It can be info about your author newsletter, your writing newsletter,
that great review you got, a book signing you have coming up, a contests you are having to
promote your newsletter, books, or website, an on-line chat, ect. (Notice the key words
above are 'you'.)
(If it's about romance writing or a romance novel, it doesn't belong here. That's for the main
RWC list.)
Anything you send a promo message for -- other than your writing of course -- has to be
FREE.
Excerpts -- The only way you can add an excerpt to the message is if it's a really short
excerpt. Like 200 words or less, so it would probably be better to just give a link to an
excerpt, or ask that those who want one contact you off list and you e-mail one to them.
Reviews -- You can add a couple of reviews to your message. Or links to them.
Length -- A number of the rules above are to keep these messages at an acceptable
length. Lots of members are on digest, so several messages come in to them as one file.
A few members still have to pay by the minute or the amount of mail they download, lots are
just on dial up or short of time, so we want to keep them in mind too.
As with any RWC rule, if you are unsure if something is allowed, simply drop me a note "off
list" at the address below and I'll get an answer to you as soon as I can.
Charlotte Dillon
RWC-Other-owner@yahoogroups.com
Resources for Romance Writers
www.CharlotteDillon.com
after Midnight Saturday until Midnight Sunday. The time goes by where you live.
NOTE: (If you forget to post your promo message on Sunday, then you'll have to wait until
the next Sunday. Please don't send it in Monday because you forgot, or Saturday because
you won't be on line Sunday. If you are set to moderated and you send your message in
Sunday night after I've shut down the computer for the day, then I will still approve it and put
it through Monday morning since it was sent Sunday.)
RWC-Other Members ONLY -- You have to be a member of RWC-Other to send in a
promo message. That means you can not forward one for a friend, or anyone else, who
doesn't belong to this group. It has to be your own promo only. Sunday Promo is done as a
thank you to members for sharing their time and know-how on with others. That's why it is
only for active members.
Subject Line -- PROMO "must" be the first thing in the subject line, and then a line that let's
us know what the message is about. Some members don't want to deal with any kind of
promo at all on list, and having that little promo warning at the start of the message makes
it easy for them to know what to delete without even opening the message.
Message Form -- There's no HTML or attachments allowed on RWC, so messages will
have to be text only. They shouldn't be straight forward ads, but kind of a friendly "hello
there let me tell you about...."
Types of Promo Allowed -- It has to be about a book you wrote, something you wrote, or
writing in some way. So that means this isn't the place for promo about those lovely bird
houses you make.
It can be about some articles you have out, your site filled with info for writing markets, that
book of poems you had published, ect... It can be a non-fiction book "you" have published.
A book about writing article for magazines. Any website about "you" as an author or any
site about writing how to. It can be info about your author newsletter, your writing newsletter,
that great review you got, a book signing you have coming up, a contests you are having to
promote your newsletter, books, or website, an on-line chat, ect. (Notice the key words
above are 'you'.)
(If it's about romance writing or a romance novel, it doesn't belong here. That's for the main
RWC list.)
Anything you send a promo message for -- other than your writing of course -- has to be
FREE.
Excerpts -- The only way you can add an excerpt to the message is if it's a really short
excerpt. Like 200 words or less, so it would probably be better to just give a link to an
excerpt, or ask that those who want one contact you off list and you e-mail one to them.
Reviews -- You can add a couple of reviews to your message. Or links to them.
Length -- A number of the rules above are to keep these messages at an acceptable
length. Lots of members are on digest, so several messages come in to them as one file.
A few members still have to pay by the minute or the amount of mail they download, lots are
just on dial up or short of time, so we want to keep them in mind too.
As with any RWC rule, if you are unsure if something is allowed, simply drop me a note "off
list" at the address below and I'll get an answer to you as soon as I can.
Charlotte Dillon
RWC-Other-owner@yahoogroups.com
Resources for Romance Writers
www.CharlotteDillon.com
FAQ About
RWC-Other
RWC-Other
1) I sent a message to the group almost an hour ago, but it hasn’t shown up yet. Should I
resend?
Not yet. Almost always, any message sent goes through. Sometimes they don’t show up
in your own in box, but reach the group page and everyone else. So the first thing to do is
to check the group page and see if your message is there. If not, wait at least a few more
hours. Sometimes Yahoo has glitches that can slow down messages by hours. If you wait
and notice that other messages seem to be coming in to the group fine, then it’s time to
resend. This shouldn’t be a problem that you have to deal with often. More often than not
messages pop through to the group within a reasonable time with no trouble.
2) Can I use e-mail commands to change my membership settings?
Yes, sure can. Simply take the sub address for the group… RWC-Other-
subscribe@yahoogroups.com and change the command word in the middle of it to fit the
command you want. So if you want to stop getting messages for a while, you would send a
blank message to RWC-Other-nomail@yahoogroups.com. If you want to switch to daily
digest you would send a blank message to RWC-Other-digest@yahoogroups.com. If you
want individual messages you would send a blank message to RWC-Other-
normal@yahoogroups.com.
3) What is digest?
With daily digest instead of getting each message individually as it is sent to the group,
you will get about 25 of them in one message file, usually only once a day. It makes it really
easy to scan through subject lines and pick which messages you want to read or skip for
those who have very little time for an active group like RWC, but still want to take part.
4) I tried to send a file through to the group, but it didn't work. Why?
All RWC groups are set up so that no HTML or attachments can be sent through them to
members. This is a safety net to protect members from computer viruses.
5) I'm going on vacation for a couple of weeks and need to stop getting messages.
Can I do this without leaving the group?
Yes, you can by going "no mail". You can change your mail setting from the group's home
page here, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RWC-Other/, or with a simple e-mail command.
See question number 2 for info on how to use e-mail commands.
6) The rules say no flames. I’m new to on line groups, so what is a flame?
A flame is an attack on a person or their opinions. A flame is a message sent with heat to
it, anger, or sharp words. It’s a message sent without thought or caring for the person you
are replying to or for others in the group who will have to see it. Tension isn’t a good thing
for any group. RWC is a warm, friendly place for writers, so flames are never welcome.
7) I have a new e-mail address. How do I change it with my groups so I can get
messages at the new address, or even at more than one address?
You can do it the hard way, and unsub from each group with the old address and resub to
each group with the new address, or you can do it the easy way. (I always say go for the
easy way if there is one.) The easy way: Go to any Yahoo Group home page, sign in, then
click on My Groups. The link for it can be found near the top of the page. Next you click on
My Email Preferences, then Add Email Address. You can follow the directions on the
screen to add your new address, a second or third address, or even remove an address.
To pick which address you want each group's messages to go to, you can click on My
Groups, then on Edit My Groups, and then use the pull down menus there to pick which
address or addresses you want to use, and even to pick how you want those messages
delivered. When done, don't forget to click on Save Changes. By the way, the address for
a Yahoo Group's home page can be found at the bottom of any message that comes
through to that group.
8) Why does it matter if I forget to trim sometimes, or if I trim only half way?
A few reasons. One, tight trimming is the rule ALL of the time. Two, as many members as
RWC has, if even half of them start forgetting to trim sometimes, it would be a mess.
Three, those untrimmed or half-trimmed messages make the digest a real pain to get
through, and we have lots of members set to digest. Four, there are new members often,
so think of those new members who have their messages bounced back to them for not
trimming, and then right after their message is rejected, two messages come in that aren't
trimmed or that are only half-trimmed. That has to make those new members feel like they
are being singled out or picked on--and it doesn't make me feel very good either since I'm
the one who has to reject messages or send those reminders.
resend?
Not yet. Almost always, any message sent goes through. Sometimes they don’t show up
in your own in box, but reach the group page and everyone else. So the first thing to do is
to check the group page and see if your message is there. If not, wait at least a few more
hours. Sometimes Yahoo has glitches that can slow down messages by hours. If you wait
and notice that other messages seem to be coming in to the group fine, then it’s time to
resend. This shouldn’t be a problem that you have to deal with often. More often than not
messages pop through to the group within a reasonable time with no trouble.
2) Can I use e-mail commands to change my membership settings?
Yes, sure can. Simply take the sub address for the group… RWC-Other-
subscribe@yahoogroups.com and change the command word in the middle of it to fit the
command you want. So if you want to stop getting messages for a while, you would send a
blank message to RWC-Other-nomail@yahoogroups.com. If you want to switch to daily
digest you would send a blank message to RWC-Other-digest@yahoogroups.com. If you
want individual messages you would send a blank message to RWC-Other-
normal@yahoogroups.com.
3) What is digest?
With daily digest instead of getting each message individually as it is sent to the group,
you will get about 25 of them in one message file, usually only once a day. It makes it really
easy to scan through subject lines and pick which messages you want to read or skip for
those who have very little time for an active group like RWC, but still want to take part.
4) I tried to send a file through to the group, but it didn't work. Why?
All RWC groups are set up so that no HTML or attachments can be sent through them to
members. This is a safety net to protect members from computer viruses.
5) I'm going on vacation for a couple of weeks and need to stop getting messages.
Can I do this without leaving the group?
Yes, you can by going "no mail". You can change your mail setting from the group's home
page here, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RWC-Other/, or with a simple e-mail command.
See question number 2 for info on how to use e-mail commands.
6) The rules say no flames. I’m new to on line groups, so what is a flame?
A flame is an attack on a person or their opinions. A flame is a message sent with heat to
it, anger, or sharp words. It’s a message sent without thought or caring for the person you
are replying to or for others in the group who will have to see it. Tension isn’t a good thing
for any group. RWC is a warm, friendly place for writers, so flames are never welcome.
7) I have a new e-mail address. How do I change it with my groups so I can get
messages at the new address, or even at more than one address?
You can do it the hard way, and unsub from each group with the old address and resub to
each group with the new address, or you can do it the easy way. (I always say go for the
easy way if there is one.) The easy way: Go to any Yahoo Group home page, sign in, then
click on My Groups. The link for it can be found near the top of the page. Next you click on
My Email Preferences, then Add Email Address. You can follow the directions on the
screen to add your new address, a second or third address, or even remove an address.
To pick which address you want each group's messages to go to, you can click on My
Groups, then on Edit My Groups, and then use the pull down menus there to pick which
address or addresses you want to use, and even to pick how you want those messages
delivered. When done, don't forget to click on Save Changes. By the way, the address for
a Yahoo Group's home page can be found at the bottom of any message that comes
through to that group.
8) Why does it matter if I forget to trim sometimes, or if I trim only half way?
A few reasons. One, tight trimming is the rule ALL of the time. Two, as many members as
RWC has, if even half of them start forgetting to trim sometimes, it would be a mess.
Three, those untrimmed or half-trimmed messages make the digest a real pain to get
through, and we have lots of members set to digest. Four, there are new members often,
so think of those new members who have their messages bounced back to them for not
trimming, and then right after their message is rejected, two messages come in that aren't
trimmed or that are only half-trimmed. That has to make those new members feel like they
are being singled out or picked on--and it doesn't make me feel very good either since I'm
the one who has to reject messages or send those reminders.
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